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Question: Hi Donald,
Ken and John have been great with helping me figure out a portable configuration. I'm really appreciative of their help. There's just a few things left out of the quote and a small change. I'm running a bit low on time these days, as I'm about to put in a large order around $9000 to get my portable and some tools for my new business, so I just need a quote with everything I asked for as soon as is possible, and my Questions:
A) Clean Storm 12gal water/waste tank with AUTO FILL
B) Cord 1 - 500 psi pump & heater - (maximum draw of 14.5 amps on all cords)
C) Cord 2 - One 8.4" vac motor with 3.3 gpm AUTO DUMP
D) Cord 3 - One 8.4" vac motor by itself
E) Price with and without heat exchanger
Is it possible to use 100 feet 12/3 power cords with my extractor instead of only 50 feet? This would allow me to use the condo hallway/corridor electrical outlets for a possible third circuit.
Would 1.5" or 2" vac port be better?
Are there heat exchangers you can get for a portable extractor that are a lot less than $850 USD? This would cost me $1230 CDN for this one feature, which is hard to afford right now during my startup phase.
Answer: Do you have the exact model of the machine your are asking about?
The Clean Storm 12-6500 unit uses the dual 6.6 vac motors (12.5 amp vacuum motors)
We have the 8.4 motors (13 amp) in the Cross American 8.4 and the Nautilus extreme series.
and
We also have the Goliath in a 30 amp vacuum system with 500 psi, cold, heat exchanger, and Complete Heat (both exchanger with electric heater)
2" ID hose is always better but hard and heavier to use so must customer will reduce down to 1.5" id for the last 15 ft next to the wand/tools.
Please note the above thread comment that 2" hose allow for hose distance twice as long as 1.5" ID.
Power cord length should be limited to 50 ft of 12-3. If you need to go longer than that we recommend you consider using 10-3 cord
This could be a stand extension cord
We also have customer that use the cord length longer than 50 ft when they use the 10-3 converters systems.
You would run 50 feet from the drier connection to the box then through the 50 ft from the Goliath to the converter box. 100 ft total.
This is OK.
We have made heat exchangers for a few other models of carpet cleaning machines but the performance can be limited unless the vacuum motors are in series.
The outbound air temperature for a single vacuum motor is 140 degree and with two motors in series the temperature is 180 degrees (after 5 minutes).
You will also see that our industry will place heat exchangers in two locations. One inside the motor box (under the hood like the Black Max) and the other using exhaust (Goliath).
We have found that the air temperature under the hood of a carpet cleaning machine is usually no more than 140 degrees. The means the series vacuum motor exhaust works the best, but any machine can have copper coils installed under the hood, and copper coils can be installed in the exhaust bath too. (usually about $400 each)
Please note their is very little performance difference between 6.6 vacuum motor that uses 12.5 amps, 8.4 vacuum motor that uses 13 amps, or a conical bottom 5.7 electro 12.5 amp motor.
Related links:
6.6 vacuum motor
8.4 vacuum motor
5.7" high performance
Ken and John have been great with helping me figure out a portable configuration. I'm really appreciative of their help. There's just a few things left out of the quote and a small change. I'm running a bit low on time these days, as I'm about to put in a large order around $9000 to get my portable and some tools for my new business, so I just need a quote with everything I asked for as soon as is possible, and my Questions:
A) Clean Storm 12gal water/waste tank with AUTO FILL
B) Cord 1 - 500 psi pump & heater - (maximum draw of 14.5 amps on all cords)
C) Cord 2 - One 8.4" vac motor with 3.3 gpm AUTO DUMP
D) Cord 3 - One 8.4" vac motor by itself
E) Price with and without heat exchanger
Is it possible to use 100 feet 12/3 power cords with my extractor instead of only 50 feet? This would allow me to use the condo hallway/corridor electrical outlets for a possible third circuit.
Would 1.5" or 2" vac port be better?
Are there heat exchangers you can get for a portable extractor that are a lot less than $850 USD? This would cost me $1230 CDN for this one feature, which is hard to afford right now during my startup phase.
Answer: Do you have the exact model of the machine your are asking about?
The Clean Storm 12-6500 unit uses the dual 6.6 vac motors (12.5 amp vacuum motors)
We have the 8.4 motors (13 amp) in the Cross American 8.4 and the Nautilus extreme series.
and
We also have the Goliath in a 30 amp vacuum system with 500 psi, cold, heat exchanger, and Complete Heat (both exchanger with electric heater)
2" ID hose is always better but hard and heavier to use so must customer will reduce down to 1.5" id for the last 15 ft next to the wand/tools.
Please note the above thread comment that 2" hose allow for hose distance twice as long as 1.5" ID.
Power cord length should be limited to 50 ft of 12-3. If you need to go longer than that we recommend you consider using 10-3 cord
This could be a stand extension cord
We also have customer that use the cord length longer than 50 ft when they use the 10-3 converters systems.
You would run 50 feet from the drier connection to the box then through the 50 ft from the Goliath to the converter box. 100 ft total.
This is OK.
We have made heat exchangers for a few other models of carpet cleaning machines but the performance can be limited unless the vacuum motors are in series.
The outbound air temperature for a single vacuum motor is 140 degree and with two motors in series the temperature is 180 degrees (after 5 minutes).
You will also see that our industry will place heat exchangers in two locations. One inside the motor box (under the hood like the Black Max) and the other using exhaust (Goliath).
We have found that the air temperature under the hood of a carpet cleaning machine is usually no more than 140 degrees. The means the series vacuum motor exhaust works the best, but any machine can have copper coils installed under the hood, and copper coils can be installed in the exhaust bath too. (usually about $400 each)
Please note their is very little performance difference between 6.6 vacuum motor that uses 12.5 amps, 8.4 vacuum motor that uses 13 amps, or a conical bottom 5.7 electro 12.5 amp motor.
Related links:
6.6 vacuum motor
8.4 vacuum motor
5.7" high performance
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