Parrallel VS Series mounted vacuum motors

[Donald]

Question Hi , have an very early model mytee carpet cleaning machine . its old . Do you ship to Auckland New Zealand . Do you have a hose that they use to connects the motors and from housing unit to just under the tank . was keen to maybe also buy a Mytee P750 Double Plastic Vacuum Motor Manifold [P750] .
Any help would be gratefully accepted . I would like to upgrade the hoses underneath.
Do you sell the ali housing and plastic like the p750 but two single manifolds as mine has a series of two . Do the new units have venting for both vac motors instead of one, like my old one? . Which has better suction ?
thanks ivan .

Answer:
We ship world wide
We do sell 2" ID wire reinforced hose at

http://www.steam-brite.com/clean-storm-wire-reinforced-vacuum-motor-hose-p-6214.html

the Mytee P750 manifold is located at

http://www.steam-brite.com/mytee-p750-double-plastic-vacuum-motor-manifold-p-14237.html

The parallel vacuum motors require 2 exhaust ports.
The cleaning performance of series VS parallel is very similar.

This forums provides the math for figuring out which creates the highest vacuum units but I can also do the math for you if you need me to.
Here is the summary below:
Series formula: (Vac 1 inches of lift + 70% of vac 2 inches of lift) X (Times) (Vac 1 cfm + 25% of Vac 2 cfm) = ? Vacuum units
Parallel formula ([vac 1 inches of lift + vac 2 inches of lift] divided by 2) X (Times) (Vac 1 cfm + vac 2 cfm) = ? Vacuum units
Since the total amp draw remains the same the performance will be similar.

Notes:
inches of water lift @ zero cfm X (times) CFM @ zero inches of lift = Vacuum units
The greater the number the better it works.

Please clarify what a "ali housing" is??

[ivanclements]

getting the best suckey motor combo

Hi , have a 7500 mytee . was sold as a electric van mount option in early 80's . Green and black . Its 240 volt in new zealand so i wish it be easy to just buy and plug in when i get it at the letterbox .

http://www.cobbcarpet.com/zen/index....oducts_id=5172 . this has vac motors mounted along side each other .one base plate .

http://www.steam-brite.com/mytee-p73...d-p-14238.html . this has vac motors as seprate units contected by a hose . two base plates .

Why i ask this silly questions are , the new units have two pipes in vac tank , and have each motor vented seperately to outside of unit around base of unit .
how much difference dose this make in terms of vac suction verus having just one vent and the second option running via hose and all the way up to and through to top tank in machine .
Have purchased two three stages vacs and running with second option and still dosnt have the suck it use to when it was new , i know we all getting old and rusty . But i want to give the old girl a birthday and be a " tim taylor " and have a gruntey protable .
And will upgrade pump , just hoping to do step by step .
any advice will be gratefully accpeted .ivan .

[ivanclements]

getting the best suckey motor combo

hi ,
http://www.cobbcarpet.com/zen/index....oducts_id=5172 . dual vacs with one base plate .

http://www.steam-brite.com/mytee-p73...d-p-14238.html has seprate base plates and hose to conect vac motors .

had written a long blog to this before but must have lost it . this sort version if it come up . sorry admin guy if this repilcates in your system :-( .

the new mytee has two vac pipes running up into waste tank . is this a performance issue . and each motor is vented around the base of units . is this a performance issue as well , ie instead of having option two ( two seprate units ) they vent each motor at bottom .

i know i sometimes went to school to eat my lunch and watch those pretty girls but i hope to reinvent the wheel some day . well have best carpet cleaning portable .
TIM TAYLOR you rock dude .

[ivanclements]

is this posting to ?/

Either my anti virus or email not getting though to your system . test ivan .

[ivanclements]

having fun post please bear with me .

hi ,
http://www.steam-brite.com/mytee-p73...d-p-14238.html . has two seprate units with vacuum motors .and hose to conect each motor

http://www.cobbcarpet.com/zen/index....oducts_id=5172 . has combine vacuum motors in one unit ( sorry to post picture of a different company on your blog ) . was to show want i meant in picture form )

which is the most suction of the two above ? . ivan

[Donald]

series VS parallel Vacuum

Your question is not clear to me so I am going to guess on what you are asking which was already answered in the last post.
Let us take the example of this vacuum motor

http://www.steam-brite.com/westpak-102451-vacuum-motor-stage-volts-p-15102.html

104 CFM • 137" Lift each
Parallel set up is 208 cfm X 137" lift = 28,496 vacuum units
Series set up is 130 cfm X 232.9" Lift = 30,277 vacuum units.
Series set up is only better by 6%
Please note with the wand on the floor all these number are cut in half.

[ivanclements]

posting problems but

hello , thank you for your time .
i see the new machines have a combined vac moulding that has motors on one base plate .ie
http://www.cobbcarpet.com/zen/index....oducts_id=5172 .

where my old mytee has

http://www.steam-brite.com/mytee-p73...d-p-14238.html .

which is the better system

[ivanclements]

i just posted and post dosnt come up ie reply to thread . not sure whats going on . i

this working . clicked to reply , and submit reply but not working ? .
ivan

[ivanclements]

double vac or single vac manifold

Hi ,
Which is better the p 735 or p 750 vac mainfold .
ivan

[ivanclements]

i see the new machines vent each motor and have two tube running into waste tank

Hi ,
I see the new machine have two tubes running into waste tank . and vented around base of machine on each side of units . not one vent under the unit like my old 7500 mytee . is there a big performance difference in doing that now .
sorry but i wanted to show web links and moderator must have got nickers in a twist with me trying to post this . and im at the bottom of the world .
Bloody kiwi i here you say . moderator sorry ( it was a joke ) .
ivan ,

[ivanclements]

If you could redesign

Hi . If one could redesign vac motor assembly would you go for the twin motors on vacuum plastic that has them side by side instead of in side by side and hose linking the vac together. And having to base vac moldings on aluminum base plate . Which has more suction .
The Web links I talked about was for guick picture references so one could see in picture for .sorry for upsetting you .

[Donald]

changing a machine from series vacs to parallel vacs.

You did not upset me, rather I am not understanding what you are trying to do. Whether you have two vacuum motors in parallel or two vacuum motors in series, the performance at the end of 15 meters of hose and then through a wand on the carpet is about the same. Not enough difference to go through all the trouble to change it out. Where you do experience larger improvements is with a parallel system with upgrading to 2" ID vacuum hose. When you have over 200 cfm you should be using 2" for the majority of the hose run and then just use 1.5" ID hose next to the wand, example the last 4 meters. If you building a machine from scratch, using the parallel design with 2" ID hose will allow for longer hose runs.

Related link
115 ft hose set with the last 15 ft 1.5" ID

http://www.steam-brite.com/clean-storm-hose-dual-15id-vacuum-3000-solution-with-connections-p-12821.html