I Can't Decide

[vialobo]

Donald,
There are so many extractors and truck mounts. Sandia alone has 10 models. I am leaning towards a portable extractor rather than a truck mount. Business wish is commercial/residential carpet cleaning, some tile, maybe flood extraction. I like the M12 but there are others... what can you say about the following and compare them with the M12.

Galaxy -
Ninja -
Jenny -
KleenRite -
Sandia -

If I went with an M12, what is its life span if used daily? Do you offer a package deal with chemicals, two wands, hose, rotary floor attachment... basically everything to get going? Best Price? Are you the distributor for the M12? Is the M12 a 3/2 stage vacuum... can I use the 1200psi to dry the carpet?
Thank you.

[Donald]

Mytee M12 Vs the others

The differences in the machines you picked are like selecting apples to green beans. You can eat both of them but they are very different. Because the question is general and non specific I will tell you a little about each as far as some of the things I think are either good features or poor features.
Mytee M12: Disadvantages: poor suction: only 4 stages of vacuum, very heavy 205 lbs, Low carpet cleaning pressure -only cleans carpet at 125 psi; Advantages: Like the price, like the 2" vacuum port, like the vacuum motors mounted in parallel.
Galaxy: Disadvantages: too much weight in the front of extractor makes it hard to go up and down stairs, Transport handle to too low. Can only order in 1.5" vacuum port and vacuum motors in series. Advantages: 15 gallon tanks, price
Jenny is a pressure washer and does not even have vacuum. Not really in the same family
KleenRite: Makes top notch equipment, but you are sure going to pay for it. Similar designs from other companies average about $800 less and the internal components are the same. Long waits on production
Sandia: Disadvantages: You might have to wait a little longer to have your machine built. Uses 1-1/2" vacuum port instead of 2". Advantages: Most machine for the money, extremely well build housings

Pleaser read posting at

http://www.steam-brite.com/forum/showthread.php?t=33&highlight=narrow

Your selection is too broad.

[vialobo]

Do all the Sandia have controls on top?
Here is my selection... electric portable.
Would 9-12 gallon clean 1300sq (a typical house)?
How much does an external heater weigh? ... a non-elect heat exchanger a must.
2 or 3 plug machine, (prefer 2).
Auto-fill and dump sound good.
Dual 3 or triple 2 stage for 75' hose. 500 psi or more.
I may want a separate machine for tile unless the cost is reasonable on a combined unit.
Ramp onto a Ford Cargo Van.
Offer steam and rotary shampoo. Dry cleaning? (how)

All this in a Sandia, Mytee or (what else do you recommend). Costs? Give me options.
Thank you.

[vialobo]

Do all the Sandia have controls on top?
Here is my selection... electric portable.
Would 9-12 gallon clean 1300sq (a typical house)?
How much does an external heater weigh? ... a non-elect heat exchanger a must.
2 or 3 plug machine, (prefer 2).
Auto-fill and dump sound good.
Dual 3 or triple 2 stage for 75' hose. 500 psi or more.
I may want a separate machine for tile unless the cost is reasonable on a combined unit.
Ramp onto a Ford Cargo Van.
Offer steam and rotary shampoo. Dry cleaning? (how)

All this in a Sandia, Mytee or (what else do you recommend). Costs? Give me options.
Thank you.

Will the Sandia 80-5000 meet these needs or can I get away with a 80-3500. If so which? Which Mytee? Any Package Deals with cleaning agents and rotary.

[Donald]

help finding a portable extractor

Sandia does have controls on top.
A 9-12 gallon machine will have to be filled up two or three times to clean the average small home.
External electric heaters weigh from 15 to 35 lbs depending on the model.
The non-electric heat exchanger is only being mass produced by Powrflite. On all the other machines, have to be shipped to our location first, have the extra heater(s) added and then re-shipped pack out to you.
The maximum machine you can place on two power cords is: (4) two stage of vacuum = 8 stages, 500 psi pressure pump, auto fill and auto dump, 10,000 BTU heat exchanger. This is dual 20 amp draw. The machine is a custom order and takes 30 days to build and currently cost $2999.99 machine only. Hoses and wand extra. For tile cleaning add a stand alone 1200 to 2000 psi water pump.
If you are going to use a ramp, the ramps that we sell that mount to the step-well of the van fold in half and store vertical during transport against the door are best. They do not take any effort to set up and put away and do not take up any room in the van.

http://www.steam-brite.com/store/link-ramps-cargo-ramps-lb20-series-p-3418.html

I believe how to dry clean carpets is already covered in this forums. I will check.

[vialobo]

Sandia does have controls on top.
A 9-12 gallon machine will have to be filled up two or three times to clean the average small home.
External electric heaters weigh from 15 to 35 lbs depending on the model.
The non-electric heat exchanger is only being mass produced by Powrflite. On all the other machines, have to be shipped to our location first, have the extra heater(s) added and then re-shipped pack out to you.
The maximum machine you can place on two power cords is: (4) two stage of vacuum = 8 stages, 500 psi pressure pump, auto fill and auto dump, 10,000 BTU heat exchanger. This is dual 20 amp draw. The machine is a custom order and takes 30 days to build and currently cost $2999.99 machine only. Hoses and wand extra. For tile cleaning add a stand alone 1200 to 2000 psi water pump.
If you are going to use a ramp, the ramps that we sell that mount to the step-well of the van fold in half and store vertical during transport against the door are best. They do not take any effort to set up and put away and do not take up any room in the van.

http://www.steam-brite.com/store/link-ramps-cargo-ramps-lb20-series-p-3418.html

I believe how to dry clean carpets is already covered in this forums. I will check.

I like 12 gallons, a non-electric exchanger, built in heat, 500psi, autofill, autodump, water pump for tile.

A dual 20amp means two standard 115V, 15 to 20 amp circuit, right? Standard outlets... no laundry dryer plug required then.

So what is the machine called?

[Donald]

carpet cleaning machine help

The Goliath only has a 500 psi water pump in it, so this mean it will clean when you squeeze the trigger at about 300 psi. It is recommended to use a 1000 psi to 2000 psi pump when cleaning tile floors so you would have to purchase a stand-a-lone tile pump to part to the side of it on tile jobs.

http://www.steam-brite.com/store/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=goliath&osCsid=vdimrh004ii44f0bjak5sdtcs3

Dual 20 amps at 120 volts means you do not have to plug into an electric dryer outlet but you can if you want to (more convenient in some parts of the country)

[vialobo]

What do you know of the Stallions?

I now wish to use a power wand, by Rotovac, since it appears to clean better. What do you know about it?

If I went with a wand, I could get a Mytee 1003DX? Could I get away with a 1001DX?

[Donald]

Rotovac VS Rotory PreScrubbing

To read other post about Rotovac just use the "search" feature inside this forum. It is located in the upper tool bar.
You will find that it does not clean any better than pre-scrubbing with a rotory floor machine followed by rinsing with a regular wand (they clean the same), the process is slower than prescurbbing with a rotory floor machine and then rinsing with a regular wand, your investment outlay of money for your equipment is much higher with the Rotovac, the carpets take much longer to dry (the number one reason a customer will never use you again), they use twice as much water as other cleaning methods so you will need an auto fill and auto dump machine, they can only operate half as much hose length as other wands. Read http://www.steam-brite.com/forum/sho...ht=hose+length
This means if you use the Mytee 1003DX and you clean with 1.5" hose you can use the rotovac 37 ft from the machine. If you use 2" hose you can clean 75' from the machine. You will have to fill and empty the machine every 10 min. 10 min cleaning and 5 min filling and emptying the machine. It will be very difficult to progress through the job. The Mytee 1001DX will clean with power wands at 25 ft with 1.5" hose and 50 ft with 2" hose. Remember the min hose length you need to clean the back bedroom on the second floor of a home is 75 ft or you will have to carry your machine up stairs.
If you want to use one of these wands, you will need more suction like an 8 stage machine, auto fill and dump like the Goliath Extractor
There are two different "stallions" in carpet cleaning equipment, one is a self contained portable and one is a truckmount. What are you talking about?

[vialobo]

First I wanted to thank you for your responses thus far.

Nobody likes the rotovac it seems.
The stallion I am thinking of is a portable. Is it any better than Mytee or Goliath?
Does the Mega3 only do fllood extraction or is it a carpet extractor too for use with wands?

Which rotary wand do you suggest for carpet pre-scrub using a dirt-napper??? There are many of these available too. SM100, Edic (rotary?), or SteamBrite?

Does the Goliath quad flood pumper do carpet extraction too? I like the Goliath start up package but I cannot do $6K. What would I need the Mitho Pressure washer for?

The Goliath Carpet Start-up kit costs how much? Why did you not just simply recommend this one from the beginning on starting a carpet cleaning business? It seems to have everything I need. It will do upstairs w/o having to drag the machine upstairs. 20 gall hold tank is plenty. Auto dump with a hose connection. GFI. One cord or two optional. 4-2stage, 8total... but only 200CFM????? I do not understand the low CFM.

[Donald]

Faster carpet cleaning

The only stallion that I know about is a self contained portable. It has the same specs as a Mytee SC9 Tracker

http://www.steam-brite.com/store/mytee-tracker-self-contained-extractor-vacs-100psi-nonheated-p-3463.html

Click on the link and see if you stallion looks like this.
The Mega 3 and the Goliath or flood pumpers but you can add an external pump or direct connect to the sink with a high flow extraction kit.

http://www.steam-brite.com/store/high-flow-extraction-conversion-p-4158.html

My two favorite pre-scrubbing machines are the Koblenz 13"

http://www.steam-brite.com/store/koblenz-175rpm-34hp-13in-floor-machine-p-4642.html

with a 15" glide brush,

http://www.steam-brite.com/store/malish-glide-brush-inches-p-5148.html

and the Koblenz Rotomold 17"

http://www.steam-brite.com/store/koblenz-floor-machine-line-17in-lightest-floor-machine-industry-p-8508.html

with the 17" dirt napper brush.

http://www.steam-brite.com/store/malish-dirt-napper-bonnet-holder-inch-p-5151.html

The 17" dirt napper uses 15" bonnets so you will be doing laundry every day. Bonnets are reusable you through them in the washer and dryier every day.
The Koblenz 13" is only 68 lbs and makes it the lightest machine on the market today. It is only a 3/4 HP so you have to use a glide brush so it can spin it with ease. The Koblenz 17" rotomolded machine is only 88 lbs and with a full 1.5 hp motor it can drive the 17" dirt napper brush with ease.
The Mitho pressure washer is used for people that do not want to use the High Flow Kit rather low flow and high pressure.

[vialobo]

The only stallion that I know about is a self contained portable. It has the same specs as a Mytee SC9 Tracker

http://www.steam-brite.com/store/mytee-tracker-self-contained-extractor-vacs-100psi-nonheated-p-3463.html

Click on the link and see if you stallion looks like this.
The Mega 3 and the Goliath or flood pumpers but you can add an external pump or direct connect to the sink with a high flow extraction kit.

http://www.steam-brite.com/store/high-flow-extraction-conversion-p-4158.html

My two favorite pre-scrubbing machines are the Koblenz 13"

http://www.steam-brite.com/store/koblenz-175rpm-34hp-13in-floor-machine-p-4642.html

with a 15" glide brush,

http://www.steam-brite.com/store/malish-glide-brush-inches-p-5148.html

and the Koblenz Rotomold 17"

http://www.steam-brite.com/store/koblenz-floor-machine-line-17in-lightest-floor-machine-industry-p-8508.html

with the 17" dirt napper brush.

http://www.steam-brite.com/store/malish-dirt-napper-bonnet-holder-inch-p-5151.html

The 17" dirt napper uses 15" bonnets so you will be doing laundry every day. Bonnets are reusable you through them in the washer and dryier every day.
The Koblenz 13" is only 68 lbs and makes it the lightest machine on the market today. It is only a 3/4 HP so you have to use a glide brush so it can spin it with ease. The Koblenz 17" rotomolded machine is only 88 lbs and with a full 1.5 hp motor it can drive the 17" dirt napper brush with ease.
The Mitho pressure washer is used for people that do not want to use the High Flow Kit rather low flow and high pressure.

Alright then...I almost have it.

Goliath sbm-go /// 20 gal, autodump with hose, GFI, one cord, 8stages, 500psi, No heat; (purchase separately: pump for carpet cleaning, hoses, wand), $1950 just machine

Sandia 80-3500H /// 12 gal, autodump? (hose?), GFI?, two cords (15Amp ea), 6stages, 500psi, Heated; vacuum hose 25', one wand, $2258.

I would be better off with a Sandia since it already has a pump for water pressure to wand.

Can I put a glide brush 15" on a Koblenz 17" Rotomold, instead of the dirt napper? This pre-scrub dry or wet?

[Donald]

portable carpet cleaning equipment help

The Sandia 80-3500-H machine requires a full dual 20 amps on two cords before you turn on the auto dump. In many places you will not be able to use auto dump and the heater at the same time. It is only 6 stage not 8 stages of vacuum.
You can put the 15" brush on a 17" rotomolded machine but consider the 18" glide brush with a riser and clutch. This way you can clean all the way to the base boards.
I am not sure where you got your price on the Sandia, but I just looked up dual 3 stages, 500 psi, 2000 watt heater, 12 gallon tanks, hoses and wand, auto fill and auto dump $2461.99 (subject to change)

http://www.steam-brite.com/store/sandia-sniper12-500psi-23vacs-2000-watt-heater-p-4691.html