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Choosing the right tile and grout spinner wand size:
Does size matter? Purchase a tool on wheels or no wheels? Purchase a tool with a hard boot plastic glide lip or a brush lip? Vacuum compensator (Release, air flow)? Type of solution and vacuum hose installed on tool? What size pump to you have? How many gallons per hour can your pump push?
Cleaning speed is max psi (pounds per square inch) X (times) max GPM (gallons per minute) = Cleaning units/ speed.
NOTES, ANSWERS:
Size Matters:
Area under a 12" cleaning tool 113.04 sq inches. Examples Turboforce TH40, Hydroforce SX12, Mytee 8904, Typhoon 12, Westpak 20-0440, (Most common for portables and cleaning systems offering up to 1200 psi at 2 gpm and for use with machines that smaller 15 amp vacuum systems)
Area under a 15" cleaning tool 176.7 sq inches. Examples: Turboforce TH15, Hydroforce SX15 AW105 (Most common for truckmounts, industrial portables (Goliath GO-1500), hybrids truckmounts, synergistic cleaning using 1500 psi at 2.1 gpm and for use with medium vacuum systems (18 amp)
Area under a 17" cleaning tool 226.97 sq inches. (Most common for truckmounts, medium pressure washers offering 1700 psi @ 3+ gpm and 25 amp vacuum systems)
Area under a 21" vacuum recovery cleaning spinner wand is 346.19 sq inches. (Minimum pressure to make work is 2100 psi - 4000 psi @ 4+ gpm and 25 amp vacuum systems)
Area under a 28" vacuum recovery cleaning spinner wand is 615.44 sq inches. (Minimum pressure to make work is 2800 psi @ 6+ gpm and 30 amp vacuum systems)
Area under a 30" vacuum recovery spinner wand is 706.5 sq inches. (Minimum pressure to make work is 3000 psi @ 7+ gpm and 50 amp vacuum systems)
The 17" tool has 28.96% more surface area under the tool over a 15" tool and 100% more area under a 12" tool, but you have to be able to spin the spray bar faster in order to still clean faster.
If I take a 15" cleaning tool like the TH15 or the and supply it with 1500 psi, a nozzle at a 20 degree angle that is 1.5 inches above the ground will move forward at a certain miles per hour forward. That same nozzle at the same angle and distance from the floor will move a larger diameter tool spray bar forward at the same miles per hour. But now because the tool is larger it will take longer to make each revolution. If you do not spin the bar faster you will have to walk slower or the cleaning can 'tiger stripe' the cleaning surface. Compare a 17" tool cleaning at 1700 psi now the spray bar spins faster and you will clean 29% more sq feet per hour over a 15" tool and 100% faster than a 12" diameter tool.
If I take a 1500 psi pump and use it on a 17" tool because the spray bar takes longer to go around the tool, I have to move the tool slower over the floor, thereby offering little to now net benefit in cleaning speed. The key is the larger the tool, the more pressure and gpm you need to make that tool work faster.
Is it safe to cleaning tile and grout at 1700 psi? Yes.
Do we have any customers that clean tile and grout at pressure over 1700 psi? No. This is the highest pressure used for inside work. For outside concrete flat work customer use 2000 to 4000 psi between 3.1 to 8 gpm, again depending how fast they want to work.
If you own or use a larger pressure washer or truckmount that can produce 1700 psi @ 3 gpm this is Turboforce HT777LP is a dramatically faster tool!
Wheels or no wheels:
The option to have wheels installed is a nice feature if you think you will drive the tool outside. The wheels help prevent contact lip from grinding away on a concrete broom finish. Concrete is broom finished to help increase friction so we do not slip on ice and rain. Wheel option will start on 15 inch diameter tools and larger the Turboforce TH15 you can clip on and clip off depending on how you want to use the tool. The 17"+ larger units all have wheels permanently attached as they figure you are definitely going to use the tool outside and optionally inside.
Hard boot plastic lip VS brush lip:
During the first inception of air recovery tools, the hard boot lip is more common for use on ceramic floors where the grout line are lower and allow additional air flow to travel in the grout lines to under the cleaning tool. The brush lip originally where used for marble floors and other type of floors that when installed have basically no grout line that is lower than the top of the floor. If you notice the marble floor installation the gout lines of supper narrow and do not dip down at all. Some tools now only offer a brush lip only with a supporting rubber skirt. This is true on the Mytee tools, Turbo Force tools TH40, TH15, Hydroforce tools SX12, SX15. The Typhoon and Westpak tools offer both lips in the box and you can toggle back and forth between them based on your needs. The Turboforce 17" Hyper series only comes in a hard boot design. The Mosmatic 21" is available in either brush or rubber lip but you order the tool on your needs and you cannot toggle between them. The Sorocco SC21V 21" and the Mosmatic 30" tool only comes in a brush lip design. Now that these tools have been on the market for 20 years, the brush lip designs have become more popular over hard boot style.
Vacuum Compensator / Release:
If you do not get enough air under the tool, the tool will become hard to move and will suck to the floor. The air flow is an important factory is assisting in picking up the water and dirt. The Turboforce Turbo Mini, TH40, TH15, and Hyper 17" Series all have a patented vacuum release system. This allows the air to come into the top middle of the dome and helps push water to the vacuum lip. The SX15 has a air slotted design in the middle of the tool that functions the same way as the spring loaded vacuum compensator. All the 12" diameter tools except for the TH40 rely solely on the brush lip on getting air flow under the tool. Tools that have wheels, washers can be added to raise the height of the tool allow for extra air flow if needed.
Type of hose installed between trigger gun and spinner swivel:
I only bring this up as every now and then we will have a customer that will purchase an Hydroforce SX12 or SX15 and hooks to a 200+ degree F cleaning systems. If the operator is cleaning at 200+ degrees F he would be using a fuel fired heater like propane, diesel, or kerosene. These two tools are made with sewer jetting hose rated for 180 degrees F @ 3000 psi and you will break the hose with repeated hose roasting at the elevated water temperatures. Most all the other tools are made with standard 3000 psi 250 degree rated hydraulic hose except for the Turboforce line is made with T1107 Teflon reinforced stainless steel jacket 500 degree rated hose. If you are using a portable or gasoline heat exchanger truckmount, the HydroForce line of tools is fine but if you are going to use a fuel fired heating system, please pick a different tool or be willing to change the solution hose to a different hose type. When we have customers order replacement hoses for the SX12 and SX15 we always upgrade them to the T1107 style so the hose will not break again. Some tools that a top end temperature rating of 250 to 300 degrees F use a steel or stainless steel pipe or lance between the trigger gun and swivel system.
Type of vacuum hose need:
All the 12" diameter tools hook to 1.5" ID vacuum hose except for the Mosmatic 78.292 that uses a 2" connection. Some of the 15"+ size use 2" ID vacuum hose. All the 21"+ sizes require 2" ID vacuum hose. If you have a 2" tool connection and want to use 1.5" hose, simply install the AH46 expanded hose cuff on the 1.5" vacuum hose.
Disclaimers:
Chart below for entertainment purpose only.
Prices subject to change without notice.
There is not meant to be any particular order.
Not all tools are available for sale and may be discontinued or out of stock.
Factories will post lower minimum psi and gpm to get you to purchase the tool. Using tools at a lower pressure will make the spray bar turn too slow thereby making the tools cleaning speed too slow for most cleaners.
Wheels required for outdoor work (broom finish on concrete wares down the cleaning lip if you do not use wheels) Brush lip tools for indoor work only.
All factories reserve the right to change exact specifications and parts used for the build without notice.
Chart below is for the stand up, full size tools.
Default solution hose when not a metal tube or lance that is installed between the trigger gun and spinner swivel is 3000 psi @ 250 degrees F unless otherwise noted.
Currently the chart only has the spinner style tools. Fixed jet and hand held tools are not included in study.
Summary:
Cheapest Tool: Clean Storm SBM12HD
Best Selling 3" tool: Clean Storm Grout Master 20190918
Best Selling 12" tool: Turboforce TH40
Best Selling 15" tool: Turboforce TH15
Best Selling 17" tool: Turboforce HT777 LP
Best Selling 21" tool: Sirocco SC21V
Links:
For a large list of vacuum recovery units visit
https://www.steam-brite.com/dristorm...t-p-93781.html
then scroll to the bottom of webpage for chart.
List of all tile and grout wands of both fixed jet and spinning jets
https://www.steam-brite.com/equipmen...-c-46_459.html
Does size matter? Purchase a tool on wheels or no wheels? Purchase a tool with a hard boot plastic glide lip or a brush lip? Vacuum compensator (Release, air flow)? Type of solution and vacuum hose installed on tool? What size pump to you have? How many gallons per hour can your pump push?
Cleaning speed is max psi (pounds per square inch) X (times) max GPM (gallons per minute) = Cleaning units/ speed.
NOTES, ANSWERS:
Size Matters:
Area under a 12" cleaning tool 113.04 sq inches. Examples Turboforce TH40, Hydroforce SX12, Mytee 8904, Typhoon 12, Westpak 20-0440, (Most common for portables and cleaning systems offering up to 1200 psi at 2 gpm and for use with machines that smaller 15 amp vacuum systems)
Area under a 15" cleaning tool 176.7 sq inches. Examples: Turboforce TH15, Hydroforce SX15 AW105 (Most common for truckmounts, industrial portables (Goliath GO-1500), hybrids truckmounts, synergistic cleaning using 1500 psi at 2.1 gpm and for use with medium vacuum systems (18 amp)
Area under a 17" cleaning tool 226.97 sq inches. (Most common for truckmounts, medium pressure washers offering 1700 psi @ 3+ gpm and 25 amp vacuum systems)
Area under a 21" vacuum recovery cleaning spinner wand is 346.19 sq inches. (Minimum pressure to make work is 2100 psi - 4000 psi @ 4+ gpm and 25 amp vacuum systems)
Area under a 28" vacuum recovery cleaning spinner wand is 615.44 sq inches. (Minimum pressure to make work is 2800 psi @ 6+ gpm and 30 amp vacuum systems)
Area under a 30" vacuum recovery spinner wand is 706.5 sq inches. (Minimum pressure to make work is 3000 psi @ 7+ gpm and 50 amp vacuum systems)
The 17" tool has 28.96% more surface area under the tool over a 15" tool and 100% more area under a 12" tool, but you have to be able to spin the spray bar faster in order to still clean faster.
If I take a 15" cleaning tool like the TH15 or the and supply it with 1500 psi, a nozzle at a 20 degree angle that is 1.5 inches above the ground will move forward at a certain miles per hour forward. That same nozzle at the same angle and distance from the floor will move a larger diameter tool spray bar forward at the same miles per hour. But now because the tool is larger it will take longer to make each revolution. If you do not spin the bar faster you will have to walk slower or the cleaning can 'tiger stripe' the cleaning surface. Compare a 17" tool cleaning at 1700 psi now the spray bar spins faster and you will clean 29% more sq feet per hour over a 15" tool and 100% faster than a 12" diameter tool.
If I take a 1500 psi pump and use it on a 17" tool because the spray bar takes longer to go around the tool, I have to move the tool slower over the floor, thereby offering little to now net benefit in cleaning speed. The key is the larger the tool, the more pressure and gpm you need to make that tool work faster.
Is it safe to cleaning tile and grout at 1700 psi? Yes.
Do we have any customers that clean tile and grout at pressure over 1700 psi? No. This is the highest pressure used for inside work. For outside concrete flat work customer use 2000 to 4000 psi between 3.1 to 8 gpm, again depending how fast they want to work.
If you own or use a larger pressure washer or truckmount that can produce 1700 psi @ 3 gpm this is Turboforce HT777LP is a dramatically faster tool!
Wheels or no wheels:
The option to have wheels installed is a nice feature if you think you will drive the tool outside. The wheels help prevent contact lip from grinding away on a concrete broom finish. Concrete is broom finished to help increase friction so we do not slip on ice and rain. Wheel option will start on 15 inch diameter tools and larger the Turboforce TH15 you can clip on and clip off depending on how you want to use the tool. The 17"+ larger units all have wheels permanently attached as they figure you are definitely going to use the tool outside and optionally inside.
Hard boot plastic lip VS brush lip:
During the first inception of air recovery tools, the hard boot lip is more common for use on ceramic floors where the grout line are lower and allow additional air flow to travel in the grout lines to under the cleaning tool. The brush lip originally where used for marble floors and other type of floors that when installed have basically no grout line that is lower than the top of the floor. If you notice the marble floor installation the gout lines of supper narrow and do not dip down at all. Some tools now only offer a brush lip only with a supporting rubber skirt. This is true on the Mytee tools, Turbo Force tools TH40, TH15, Hydroforce tools SX12, SX15. The Typhoon and Westpak tools offer both lips in the box and you can toggle back and forth between them based on your needs. The Turboforce 17" Hyper series only comes in a hard boot design. The Mosmatic 21" is available in either brush or rubber lip but you order the tool on your needs and you cannot toggle between them. The Sorocco SC21V 21" and the Mosmatic 30" tool only comes in a brush lip design. Now that these tools have been on the market for 20 years, the brush lip designs have become more popular over hard boot style.
Vacuum Compensator / Release:
If you do not get enough air under the tool, the tool will become hard to move and will suck to the floor. The air flow is an important factory is assisting in picking up the water and dirt. The Turboforce Turbo Mini, TH40, TH15, and Hyper 17" Series all have a patented vacuum release system. This allows the air to come into the top middle of the dome and helps push water to the vacuum lip. The SX15 has a air slotted design in the middle of the tool that functions the same way as the spring loaded vacuum compensator. All the 12" diameter tools except for the TH40 rely solely on the brush lip on getting air flow under the tool. Tools that have wheels, washers can be added to raise the height of the tool allow for extra air flow if needed.
Type of hose installed between trigger gun and spinner swivel:
I only bring this up as every now and then we will have a customer that will purchase an Hydroforce SX12 or SX15 and hooks to a 200+ degree F cleaning systems. If the operator is cleaning at 200+ degrees F he would be using a fuel fired heater like propane, diesel, or kerosene. These two tools are made with sewer jetting hose rated for 180 degrees F @ 3000 psi and you will break the hose with repeated hose roasting at the elevated water temperatures. Most all the other tools are made with standard 3000 psi 250 degree rated hydraulic hose except for the Turboforce line is made with T1107 Teflon reinforced stainless steel jacket 500 degree rated hose. If you are using a portable or gasoline heat exchanger truckmount, the HydroForce line of tools is fine but if you are going to use a fuel fired heating system, please pick a different tool or be willing to change the solution hose to a different hose type. When we have customers order replacement hoses for the SX12 and SX15 we always upgrade them to the T1107 style so the hose will not break again. Some tools that a top end temperature rating of 250 to 300 degrees F use a steel or stainless steel pipe or lance between the trigger gun and swivel system.
Type of vacuum hose need:
All the 12" diameter tools hook to 1.5" ID vacuum hose except for the Mosmatic 78.292 that uses a 2" connection. Some of the 15"+ size use 2" ID vacuum hose. All the 21"+ sizes require 2" ID vacuum hose. If you have a 2" tool connection and want to use 1.5" hose, simply install the AH46 expanded hose cuff on the 1.5" vacuum hose.
Disclaimers:
Chart below for entertainment purpose only.
Prices subject to change without notice.
There is not meant to be any particular order.
Not all tools are available for sale and may be discontinued or out of stock.
Factories will post lower minimum psi and gpm to get you to purchase the tool. Using tools at a lower pressure will make the spray bar turn too slow thereby making the tools cleaning speed too slow for most cleaners.
Wheels required for outdoor work (broom finish on concrete wares down the cleaning lip if you do not use wheels) Brush lip tools for indoor work only.
All factories reserve the right to change exact specifications and parts used for the build without notice.
Chart below is for the stand up, full size tools.
Default solution hose when not a metal tube or lance that is installed between the trigger gun and spinner swivel is 3000 psi @ 250 degrees F unless otherwise noted.
Currently the chart only has the spinner style tools. Fixed jet and hand held tools are not included in study.
| Model | Outside Diameter |
Minimum Pump PSI & GPM |
Lip Design | Wheels Included |
Vacuum Hose Connection Size OD |
Average Price | Notes |
| Mytee 8907 | 6" | 600 psi & 2 gpm | Brush | No | 1.5" | $600 | |
| Gekko AR51G | 7" | 700 psi & 2 gpm | Brush | No | 1.5" | $818 with optional Stand Up Wand Pipe and Handle |
Can be used as a stand up tool or hand held tool. Solution hose is rated for 180 degrees F so not mean for live steam for customer that clean with fuel fired heating systems. |
| Mosmatic 78.290 | 8" | 1000 psi & 2 gpm | Brush | Yes | 2" | $500 | Can be used with the lance removed and converted to hand held wall cleaning tool. With lance removed the trigger gun mounts direct on top of tool. Safe to crank up to 4000 psi. |
| Clean Storm SBM12HD | 12" | 1200 psi & 2 gpm | Both Included | No | 1.5" | $425 | AKA Typhoon |
| EDIC REV1200 | 12" | 1200 psi & 2 gpm | Brush | No | 1.5" | $901 | Discontinued |
| Mosmatic 78.292 | 12" | 1200 psi & 2 gpm | Brush | Yes | 2" | $550 | Can be used at 4000 psi too! Jet angle is 11 degrees and offers stronger perpendicular impact. Lance can be removed for tool to be used on walls and tight spaces. Simply relocate trigger gun to be mounted directly on top of dome. Replaces Mosmatic 78.242(European Model) |
| Hydroforce AW104 | 12" | 1200 psi & 2 gpm | Brush | No | 1.5" | $799 | AKA SX12 and SX-12. Solution hose is rated for 180 degrees F so not mean for live steam for customer that clean with fuel fired heating systems. |
| Mytee 8903 | 12" | 1200 psi & 2 gpm | Brush | No | 1.5" | $732 | More compact handle and trigger design. |
| Hydrotek ANT12 | 12" | 1200 psi & 2 gpm | Brush | No | 1.5" | $767 | No trigger, You supply your own gun with 22mm connection |
| Hydroforce TH40 | 12" | 1200 psi & 2 gpm | Brush | Optional | 1.5" | $855 | AKA TH-40. 500 degree F. rated hose! |
| Steel Eagle ASE-0160 | 3" | 500 psi & 2.5 gpm | Brush | Yes | 2" | $319 | No trigger, You supply own lance and gun set up. Great for gum and grout lines. |
| Mosmatic 78.194 | 12" | 300 psi & 1 gpm | Hard Boot | Yes | 2" | $544 | Designed to be used with 300 degree vapor / water. |
| Mosmatic 78.144 | 12" | 2000 psi & 3 gpm | Brush | Yes | 2" | $677.13 | No trigger. No vacuum required. Has a 3rd spray jet installed in vacuum hose opening to create its own vacuum and push the water down the vacuum hose. |
| Hydroforce AW105 | 15" | 1500 psi & 2.1 gpm | Brush | No | 2" | $901 | AKA SX15, SX-15, Hydramaster 000-163-315, US Products RX-15H. You can use the tool at 1200 psi but then their is no net benefit in cleaning speed as you have to walk slower to allow the spray bar to make each revolution. Solution hose is rated for 180 degrees F so not mean for live steam for customer that clean with fuel fired heating systems. |
| Turboforce TH15 | 15" | 1500 psi & 2.1 gpm | Brush | Optional | 1.5" | $915 | AKA TH-15. 500 degree F. rated hose! |
| Mosmatic 78.293 | 12" | 2000 psi & 3 gpm | Brush | Yes | 2" | $622.13 | Includes trigger gun and lance. This is the upgraded version of Mosmatic 78.144. No vacuum required. Has a 3rd spray jet installed in vacuum hose opening to create its own vacuum and push the water down the vacuum hose. |
| Mytee 8904 | 12" | 1200 psi & 2 gpm | Brush | No | 1.5" | $732 | Includes a 2" vacuum hose adapter. |
| Steel Eagle ASE-0150 | 11" | 2000 psi & 2 gpm | Brush | No | 2" | $968 | Can be converted to hand held tool. |
| Mosmatic 80.784 | 21" | 2500 psi & 4 gpm | Brush | Yes | 2" | $1320 | AKA FL-AH 520 |
| Mosmatic 80.785 | 30" | 3000 psi & 6 gpm | Brush | Yes | Dual 2" | $1653 | AKA FL-AH 30 Use with industrial vacuum recovery units like the Goliath quad 6.6 vacuum |
| Hydrotek ANTV5 | 24.5" | 3000 psi & 4 gpm | Brush | Yes | 2" | $1996 | All stainless steel construction |
| Mosmatic 80.787 | 21" | 2100 psi & 4 gpm | Rubber Boot | Yes | 2" | $1782 | Includes 2nd Trigger gun to install an optional gum blaster nozzle |
| Mosmatic 80.788 | 30" | 3000 psi & 6 gpm | Brush | Yes | Dual 2" | $1970 | Includes 2nd Trigger gun to install an optional gum blaster nozzle |
| Sirocco SC21V | 21" | 2100 psi & 4 gpm | Brush | Yes | 2" | $1685 | Includes quick change "side kick" lance for spot and gum removal. Optional Integrated pressure and temperature gauges. |
| Sirocco SC30V | 30" | 3000 psi & 6 gpm | Brush | Yes | 2" | $2685 | Includes quick change "side kick" lance for spot and gum removal. Optional Integrated pressure and temperature gauges. |
| Steel Eagle ASE-0120 | 16" | 2000 psi & 3 gpm | Brush | Yes | 2" | $1545.92 | |
| Turboforce HT777 LP | 17" | 1700 psi & 3 gpm | Boot | Yes | 1.5" | $999 | Popular indoor / outdoor tool |
| Turboforce HT777 HP | 17" | 2000 psi & 3 gpm | Boot | Yes | 1.5" | $999 | |
| Steel Eagle ASE-0121 | 16" | 2000 psi & 3 gpm | Brush | Yes | 1.5" | $1545 | |
| Steel Eagle ASE-0125 | 16" | 2000 psi & 3 gpm | Brush | Yes | 2" | $1816 | |
| Steel Eagle ASE-0140 | 24" | 2400 psi & 4 gpm | Brush | Yes | 2" | $1958 | |
| Steel Eagle ASE-0145 | 24" | 2400 psi & 4 gpm | Brush | Yes | 2" | $2570 | |
| Steel Eagle ASE-0151 | 11" | 2000 psi & 3 gpm | Brush | No | 1.5" | $968 | Can be converted to hand held tool. |
| WestPak 20-0440 | 13" | 1200 psi & 2 gpm | Both Included | No | 1.5" | $555 | Spray bar is same as all the other 12" spinner tools listed above. |
| Hydramaster RX12 | 12" | 1200 psi & 2 gpm | Both Included | No | 1.5" | $999 | AKA 000-163-790. Includes a 2" adapter for 2" vacuum hose |
| Clean Storm 20190919 |
3" | 500 psi to 1500 psi | Plastic Lip | No | 1.5" | $352 | Grout Master / Video On Link |
Cheapest Tool: Clean Storm SBM12HD
Best Selling 3" tool: Clean Storm Grout Master 20190918
Best Selling 12" tool: Turboforce TH40
Best Selling 15" tool: Turboforce TH15
Best Selling 17" tool: Turboforce HT777 LP
Best Selling 21" tool: Sirocco SC21V
Links:
For a large list of vacuum recovery units visit
https://www.steam-brite.com/dristorm...t-p-93781.html
then scroll to the bottom of webpage for chart.
List of all tile and grout wands of both fixed jet and spinning jets
https://www.steam-brite.com/equipmen...-c-46_459.html
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